It’s morally right that people should die for my amusement

The BBC website has a reasonably sensible, if not impartial, article by a sports shooter about guns – specifically, on how they’re fun and basically safe, except for the very rare occasions when evil people get hold of them and go massacring.

Unsurprisingly, the ‘have your say’ comments are full of the usual suspects saying things like “aha, you said ‘except sometimes’. How dare you expect even one innocent person to die for your fun?” This argument is generally hard to refute without sounding callous, but it’s wrong.

If something provides sufficient net quantities of fun, it is easy to see that we do rate it as worth the death of one or several innocent people. How’s that? Easy. Such beneficial-only-because-fun activities that kill the innocent and non-consenting as funfairs, fast cars, aviation, skateboarding, allowing men out at night, swimming pools and serving margarine to kids are both legal and socially acceptable.

Hence, society (here meaning “everyone who is capable of even the most basic level of moral debate”) agrees that if enough fun is provided, the deaths for fun trade-off is acceptable. The only moral question left is over the necessary fun-to-killing ratio.

That isn’t quite true, philosophically speaking – there’s also a question over agent-related morality. We can accept a certain level of deaths as a consequence of where we set fun levels (we know some people will have aeroplanes crash into their houses as an inevitable consequence of mass aviation), but we can’t deliberately kill a whole bunch of people for our amusement (hence popular revulsion at Running Man-style scifi concepts). This is a side debate with no relevance to gun policy, however.  

Returning to the main point, the only reason to justify a government-imposed ban on guns would be that they’re not fun enough to outweigh the harm they cause. At this point, things like guns being less dangerous than swimming pools might come into play (and quite possibly be refuted by the fact that they’re also less fun). Either way, at least we’d be dealing with a debate rather than a witless moral panic.

11 comments
  1. dearieme said:

    When the bastards banned diving boards, they pretty much guaranteed that swimming pools are less fun than guns.

  2. Ah, but John: is it more fun, either for you or everyone else, to be “shot by both sides”?

    I think we should be told.

  3. N.I.B. said:

    The real shame is when people get killed while doing things that aren’t fun – like driving to work, for example.

  4. chris y said:

    Why do you particularly think it’s fun to serve margarine to kids? And should we contact the police?

  5. “hence popular revulsion at Running Man-style scifi concepts”

    Give it another 5 years or so.

  6. It’s a good point. When I was in the US a few years ago, I was distressed to discover that firing a great big Dirty Harry handgun with exploding bullets at a paper man’s groin really is very fun indeed. I’d say it was easily worth a few dozen deaths a year, as long as none of them are me, obviously.

  7. Steve said:

    The Tory government’s gun restrictions have stopped people having fun (the sports shooters) while doing nothing to reducethenumber of firearms in circulation. Since 1996, fewer people who shoot for fun ahve guns and more people who shoot to kill have them.

    The gun ban was an expensive knee-jerk reacton to the Dunblane shootings.

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  9. “hence popular revulsion at Running Man-style scifi concepts”

    You’ve not been watching Big Brother this year, then?

  10. The Kusabi said:

    The BBC website has a reasonably sensible, if not impartial, article by a sports shooter about guns – specifically, on how they’re fun and basically safe, except for the very rare occasions when evil people get hold of them and go massacring.

    People who would rather evil people had guns than that good people had them attempting to make moral cases against gun ownership for preservation of life purposes is quite the gaudy spectacle.

  11. stuart said:

    “one innocent person to die for your fun”

    Never mind him, over here we like the guilty ones to die (or at least bleed profusely. The message soon gets out: it’s not worth risking hail of bullets for the $30 my DVD player will raise at the pawn shop – IF the burglar makes it off my property in one piece!