The European Commission – more democratic than the US presidency?

A constant argument of the anti-EU side is that the European Commission is not democratic.

But in the US, the people do not directly elect their president. Sure, they VOTE for the president, but it is the Electoral College which actually makes the final decision. Hence Al Gore getting the majority of the popular vote in 2000, yet not winning the presidency (and that wasn’t a one-off – see also Samuel Tilden getting more than Rutherford Hayes in 1876, Grover Cleveland getting more than Benjamin Harrison in 1888, and even – if you buy the tales of vote fraud – Richard Nixon getting more than John F Kennedy in 1960).

The US president is the top dog of the US executive. The rest of the executive is led by his cabinet. Yet the US cabinet is solely appointed by the president – none of them are elected officials (unlike the UK where, as the executive is part of the legislature, the majority of members of the cabinet are democratically elected MPs). The president’s choice of cabinet then has to be ratified by Congress.

How is this different to the EU system? The Commission has a strong case for being the closest the EU has to an executive. Its president is agreed by representatives of the democratically elected governments of the member states. These representatives are, arguably, equivalent to the United States’ Electoral College voters. The Commission president-elect is then ratified by the democratically-elected European Parliament.

Then, of course, the president of the Commission appoints the commissioners – just as the US president appoints his cabinet. Only the Commission president has no say in who his commissioners are. Instead, the individual (again, democratically-elected) governments of the member states nominate their own commissioners. The Commission president then gives them their various positions. Again, these then have to be ratified by the European Parliament.

At the moment, the major check remains the veto of the various member states, which means that any country can prevent every other country from doing something it doesn’t like. It’s sort of as if each member of the cabinet could veto any government policy they disagree with.

Also, to make an especially imperfect comparison, in effect the European Parliament acts like the House of Lords is meant to in the British parliament, reading through and amending legislation and thus (supposedly) preventing anything too mental from getting passed into law.

Then of course, there’s also scrutiny by the Council of Ministers (technically known as the Council of the European Union – although this should not be confused with the Council of Europe, which is nothing much to do with the EU, or the European Council, which is made up of the heads of the member states and provides an extra layer of scrutiny).

The Council of Ministers usually divides into nine “formations” to analyse and discuss specific policy areas. It’s a vaguely similar idea to parliamentary select committees, only unlike them the council also gets to vote on legislation in its capacity as a supposedly impartial body for scrutinising proposals. The Council as a whole votes, and usually has to do so unanimously (qualified majority voting applies in certain areas, but this has to be a majority both of member states and the EU population, making it tricky to force things through).

On top of that, you have the various legal institutions which could, like in Britain, rule that EU policies are against the law, and thus force another revision.

In the US, cabinet appointees all have to be ratified by the (democratically elected) Congress, just as European Commissioners have to be ratified by the European Parliament. Yet, arguably, for the US cabinet to have the same legitimacy as the European Commission, each (democratically elected) government of each US state would have to have the right to appoint its own cabinet member. So instead of Condi, Rumsfeld and the like, we’d have a bunch of people appointed by the state governments of Wisconsin, Idaho, South Carolina and the rest all vying for the president’s attention. That would, technically, be more democratic than the current system, where the president’s mates get all the best positions whether they’ve ever held elected office or not.

So then, considering that the president of the European Commision is chosen by agreement between the democratically elected representatives of the EU states, the commissioners are appinted by the democratically elected governments of the EU states, and both the president and the commissioners are confirmed in their positions by the democratically elected European Parliament, isn’t the European Commission more democratic than the American executive, in which not even the president necessarily has to have a majority of voters behind him?

13 comments
  1. Andrew said:

    Except that the Commission proposes legislation, whereas, as far as I know, Congress does this in the US. So you’re not comparing like with like in some broad sense.

  2. Some fair points and an interesting argument, but ultimately the argument falls down because it’s difficult to be democratic when there isn’t a coherent demos.

    However impurely representative and accountable the US Federal Government might or might not be, it is accountable to a coherent political community, which people identify as their binding identity. The same cannot be said for the European Commission; our sense of Europeanness varies dramatically across the continent, as we know here in the UK perhaps most of all.

  3. One other point, too easily forgotten on my side in the European debate – democracy isn’t the sole or even primary criterion in assessing political institutions. We also want those institutions to favour stability, moderation, and to promote the wise at the expense of the stupid, amongst other things.

  4. And pl-e-e-e-ase nobody make the obvious Bush joke about that last comment.

  5. The legislation proposal thing is certainly an issue – I don’t agree with the current EU system on that front in the slightest, and it does bugger up the argument somewhat. And the European Demos issue is one that’s going continually to haunt the EU until something can be sorted out – which is unlikely until we’re all speaking the same language (though not impossible – check out Nicholas Ostler’s brilliant new book “Empires of the Word: A Language History of the World” for more on that issue). Still – I reckon there are a few fair points in there, which isn’t bad for a post which was originally rattled off in 20 minutes as a piss-take…

  6. Andrew said:

    The best test would probably be to ask the people. Do you think the American people would agree that their political system is democratic and accountable? And do you think that the European people would agree that their system is democratic and accountable? And is there likely to be a state-by-state consensus in the US, and nation state-by-nation state consensus in Europe?

    I’d say the answers are probably Yes, Partly, Yes, No, in that order. I doubt that there are any federo-sceptic states in the US, but in the EU, there certainly are EU-sceptic nation states.

  7. Monjo said:

    There’s a lot of federal-sceptic people in the US. The difference between the US and the EU, as I see it is, in the US the States control most of the laws and won’t cede anything other to the Federal Government. In the EU each state (country) has its own laws, but the EU is trying to create a trump card legal system.
    I think a lot of Americans wouldn’t mind seeing the US break-up, and incidentally North Carolina never officially even joined the Union.

    But you’re right that the US system isn’t really very democratic, but all that happens is in the EU we get to elect someone out of a choice of a few elite idiots, in the US the president gets to pick which idiot he likes.

  8. Andrew said:

    Federal sceptic people, yes. Federal sceptic states? By majority of the people? Probably not.

  9. Critical test: Americans will accept (with reservations, but they will accept) the Federal Government carting off their neighbour in the middle of the night. If the European Commission did such a thing, my guess is most of us would be a tad more bothered…

  10. Katie said:

    Actually, the US President is expressly forbidden to propose legislation. As a trade-off, the Vice-President, ahem, presides over the Senate and gets a (typically tie-breaking) 100th vote. There is no such thing as a bill proposed by a party or by the government, only by congressmen.

    On a side terminology note, many people, stupid americans included, mistakenly believe there are senators in the upper house and congressmen in the lower.

    Of course, the lower chamber is the House of Representatives, and both houses contain congressmen (and women) but it’s considered quite impolite to address a senator as “congressman” whereas Representative David Blarney (or whatever) is almost always referred to informally as “congressman.”

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