The Clash of Civilisations, E1?

Well, hardly. Respect’s stunning success in Tower Hamlets has provoked borderline hysteria amongst some:

Once the sectarian identities multiculturalism inevitably promotes get hold, it doesn’t seem to matter how bad the politicians who exploit
them are, as Respect’s success in London’s East End shows…

Once again, we find a slice of the electorate in a poor part of Britain that is so lost in identity politics and victimhood that it will vote for those who stoke their rage, no matter how worthless they are.

You can almost smell the contempt, wafting over from the Betsey Trotwood.


Elsewhere, we find that Respect is “Britain’s first electoral Islamist party.”

This is plainly a racist argument. The author has seen councillors with certain names, and with certain coloured skins, and assumes he is looking at “Islamists”. It is an argument designed to appeal to that squealing section of the former Left dangerously close to convincing itself that the Muslim hordes are massing against poor, vulnerable “liberal values”. Latter-day Pope Urbans, dropping religious obscurantism for an “anti-totalitarian” perversion of the Left’s history, urge vigilance against the unbelievers.

This risible nonsense does not stand up to the most cursory examination of politics in Tower Hamlets. Take, for example, the two new Respect councillors in Whitechapel. One, Wais Islam, described himself in his election literature as “leaving New Labour to join Respect”. Another, Shahed Ali, was a Labour Party member for nearly twenty years. Now, they are both Muslims; but I trust our tolerant, liberal friends would not be so crass as to say outright that every Muslim is a “fundamentalist”. The same pattern appears across the borough: those joining and campaigning for Respect are former Labour Party members and supporters. Some are Muslims, some are not.

These new members have joined Respect partly because of the war, but mostly because of the awful fashion in which New Labour has run Tower Hamlets for the last twelve years. In Shahed’s case, the final straw was the destruction of local Labour Party democracy: local members were not even allowed to select their own council candidates, the final list being dictated by central office. New Labour, sensing rebellion, attempted to rule by fiat.

The privatisation and dismemberment of local services, the housing crisis, the absence of youth facilities: these are the issues that mattered on the doorstep. Far from the apocalyptic fantasies of the pro-war “Left”, this election was fought, street-by-street, on bread-and-butter issues. Respect stood on a demonstrably Old Labour platform; it will stand in the council chamber for demonstrably Old Labour values. A previously under-represented, deprived, and thoroughly working-class area of London now has councillors prepared to fight its corner.

New Labour, in marked contrast, repeated its 2005 election trick, leaning towards communalism. In Shadwell, leaflets promoting the impeccably New Labour council leader, Michael Keith, urged voters to ignore Respect’s “lies” and vote for the “Muslim party”. In Whitechapel, a vicious whispering campaign against the Respect candidates’ alleged lack of Muslim virtue managed to return one of Michael Keith’s lieutenants at the expense of a politically talented young Bengali woman.

It is worth noting, by the by, that Respect has more Muslim women councillors than all the other parties put together. Labour ran next to no female Muslim candidates; the Lib Dems did not field any in winnable areas. Only Respect broke with a long-standing local tradition. These are not the actions of a “communalist”, still less a “fundamentalist” organisation.

In the topsy-turvy world of the Euston Manifesto group and their clique, all this is stood on its head: far from demonstrably fighting for women’s rights, Respect is alleged to be repressing them; far from fighting on a traditional, socialist platform of public services, local democracy, and working-class solidarity, Respect is alleged to be dividing the community; far from being the only party consistently opposed to communalist politics, Respect is alleged to be promoting “communalism”.

This smoke-and-mirrors trick only works when Tower Hamlets is presented as some desolate heart of darkness, into which the light from brave, sure-footed liberal scribes occasionally penetrates. Much of the borough is poor, desperately so, and overcrowded; too many of its residents have been effectively abandoned by all the main parties; the inequalities it presents are breathtakingly severe. This much is true. But claims that Tower Hamlets is also “Muslim-dominated” are very wide of the mark: at the last census, the borough was found to be 51% “white British”; it is 33% Bangladeshi, not all of whom are Muslim; and there is only one council ward in which Bangladeshis are even the majority. One-third of respondents in Tower Hamlets as whole defined themselves as Muslim.

Put simply, a plain “communalist” party cannot win here. The demography is set against it. The degenerated local Labour Party, in attempting to shore up its weakened vote, has taken to running two, separate “communalist” campaigns come election time: one for “white” areas, and one for “Muslim”. But New Labour’s serious defeats in two critical wards, Whitechapel and Shadwell, show there is no great appetite for communalist politics amongst British Bengalis. The unpleasant settlement between New Labour and old-style clientelism has been very significantly weakened.

And the wild-eyed fundamentalists? Some can be found, in dribs and drabs, attempting to break up election meetings, or campaigning against the Brick Lane Mela. They cannot be found in Respect.

Respect has already pushed New Labour onto the back foot over council house privatisation. We have exposed the ballot-rigging that has taken place under their watch. We have built an organisation that can overturn wards they have held for nine decades. With at least three council seats likely to be reballoted in coming weeks, New Labour’s slender council majority is close to vanishing.

36 comments
  1. Put simply, a plain “communalist” party cannot win here. The demography is set against it.

    Well, that’s not strictly true, because intensive activist-campaigning could be aimed at getting a higher average turnout from your “target” community. It’s Rove’s Republican trick transported (back) to East London.

    Having said that, I’m minded to believe you – though it’s very difficult to get at the truth on this. One piece of evidence from Hackney goes against you: there were precisely no Respect councillors standing in my ward, despite the fact that there’s a significant Muslim population here. With my Machiavellian hat on I wonder whether that’s because they are the wrong kind of Muslims for Respect: Turks and Turkish Cypriots, Alevis, and secular-minded Kurds. Maybe there’s a better explanation?

  2. tony said:

    Oh come *on* Donald – if we stand in “Muslim areas”, it’s evidence that we’re communalists, and if we *don’t* stand in “Muslim areas”, that’s also evidence that we’re communalists?

    There is absolutely no way to win that argument. If we stood non-Muslims in “Muslim areas”, would you take that as evidence that we’re trying to pretend we’re not communalists?

    I think you, like so many other people, have absorbed so much of the scum that’s floated to the surface among former leftists that it’s distorted the way you look at Respect.

    PS, plenty of Kurdish activists in Respect. But that’s beside the point.

  3. a said:

    Couple of points: you lost the lection, a point you seem to ignore in your glorious recounting of the Great Patriotic War for East London. After Galloway repeatedly promised you’d drive Labour into the ground.

    Secondly, it’s not racist to say Respect is an Islamist party when it is full of Islamists. You could argue that the Islamists are not representative/important/powerful but what you cannot do is try to close down the argument by decrying all those who disagree with you as racists.

  4. worraller said:

    ‘Secondly, it’s not racist to say Respect is an Islamist party when it is full of Islamists’

    But what about if you make up the idea that Respect is ‘full of Islamists’? Is that racist?

    Condemned by your own words, it seems to me, unless you can come up with some evidence that Respect is, indeed, ‘full of Islamists’.

  5. Meaders said:

    Respect representation on TH council, 3 May 2006: 1
    Respect representation on TH council, 5 May 2006: 12 (…and counting, depending on the legal challenges). Yep, it’s a catastrophic defeat.

    …it’s not racist to say Respect is an Islamist party when it is full of Islamists.

    Ho ho! Where? Where are these “Islamist” councillors? I want names. Come on, have a bash and we’ll see how you get on. I’ll wager that you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

    Of course it’s a racist argument: the person quoted saw Bengali names, and drew his conclusions from that. You’re trying to back them up with this ignorant claptrap about Respect being “full” of Islamists. Well done.

  6. tony: I haven’t absorbed anyone else’s scum. I’m asking a simple question: on what basis were the wards Respect chose to fight chosen? It seems to me that next door in Hackney we have all the problems of Tower Hamlets, yet few or no Respect resources were thrown our way. I never saw one canvasser nor received a leaflet. You managed about a tenth of the Green Party’s vote in Hackney overall, I believe, and obviously zero in my ward.

    One interpretation of this might be that we have the “wrong kind of Muslims” for Respect here. I’m not saying that is the reason. I don’t know what the answer is. Maybe someone else does. That’s my question.

  7. Sylvia said:

    Sometimes I feel like an only child! Maybe that’s because I am. But am I the only non-Muslim member of Respect? (Apart from my family, friends, various people I meet at meetings, rallies, marches, etc).

    Am I?

  8. worraller said:

    Luis has just posted up similar at GG’s CiF blog. As if any of this is in any way incriminating. I suppose it is if you are an Islamophobe.

    Are you panicking Luis?

  9. Luis – any chance of a link and a summary for that, rather than mere cutting and pasting of offputting reams of text? Cheers…

  10. noel said:

    It seems to me that next door in Hackney we have all the problems of Tower Hamlets, yet few or no Respect resources were thrown our way. I never saw one canvasser nor received a leaflet. You managed about a tenth of the Green Party’s vote in Hackney overall, I believe, and obviously zero in my ward.

    One interpretation of this might be that we have the “wrong kind of Muslims” for Respect here. I’m not saying that is the reason. I don’t know what the answer is. Maybe someone else does. That’s my question.

    Donald, stop talking crap, the reason Respect only did some stuff in Hackney is not because it has the ‘wrong kind of muslims’ but because it is a tiny organisation concentrating it’s resources in areas it is most likely to win or make headway, rather than hurling around racist insults why not actually try and help Hackney Respect (if you believe in it) so that next time it can make more impact in Hackney.

    Jeez, Respect was only set up 2 years ago, yet some people seem to think it can perform miracles!

  11. Jake said:

    Well… the US has lost the war in Iraq, thanks to the resistance. Personally I wouldn’t thank any deity for that as I’m an atheist, but if George wants to thank a god he happens to believe in, I don’t have a problem with that.

    I think most people who call Respect “Islamist” don’t know what the word means. While not all Islamists are against elections, they all believe in a clash of civilisations between Muslims and non-Muslims. Respect patently doesn’t, it sees Muslims as one part of a coalition of people who have been abandoned and need representation.

    While it’s true that as a small party we had to concentrate our resources, it’s not even true that we only did that in “Muslim” areas. Look at the Lockleaze ward in Bristol – a white working class area where we came second, beating Labour, Tories and Greens. Our candidate there was well-known locally through his union activity (used to be the convenor at Rolls Royce till they sacked him).

  12. Noel – keep it civilised, or bugger off, there’s a good chap? This isn’t Harry’s Place – we’re after polite debate backed up with facts or reasonable interpretations, not heated arguments. Cheers.

  13. JonoB said:

    luis enrique

    You’re an idiot. The interview you reproduced is mistranslated. Galloway did not say that the cartoons were worse than 7/7 and 9/11. He said that anti-muslim feeling is currently greater than at any time before, worse than 7/7 and 9/11. Check your sources before you slander people.

  14. JonoB said:

    Whether you said anything about it or not, you reproduced words and attributed to Galloway despite the fact that they were not said by him, and that this mistranslation had been exposed long ago. I guess any smear will do for some.

    The violence engulfing Iraq has been created by the US in their determination to occupy Iraq indefinitely. There is evidence that the death squads you mention are being run by the CIA out of the Iraqi interior ministry. The US will not leave of its own accord and are constructing massive permanent military bases to secure their presence. The only way they will leave is if they are forced out, Vietnam style. Hence Galloway’s support for the resistance, which does not mean support for Islamic terrorism, as you seem to imply.

    Surly the pictures of Iraqis rejoicing after a British army helicopter was shot down should tell us that we are not welcome, and must leave of our own accord before we are forced out.

  15. it is a tiny organisation concentrating it’s resources in areas it is most likely to win or make headway

    If that was all it was, you would have been better in London to concentrate efforts in, say, Hackney rather than spreading out to one in Camden (Somers Town), one in Ealing (Southall), one in Manchester (Rusholme), and so on. Why, for example, of all the wards in Liverpool, just pick Princes Park?

    Obviously there were tons of factors in deciding where to fight and where to pass (I realise Lockleaze doesn’t fit my simplistic plan, for example), but the pattern of where Respect chose to fight at least raises a question.

  16. Jake said:

    “what do you mean by the US having lost its war in Iraq?”

    Well yeah, your description will do. I’m not crowing about the fact that life there is miserable and people are getting massacred. But I don’t believe that without resistance to the occupation there’d now be a flourishing democracy, rising living standards and inter-ethnic harmony – there’d be a dirty little US client regime like they used to have in Latin America, with the economy parcelled out to US corporations, backed up by death squads and sectarian divide-and-rule politics. Which of course are present in Iraq right now, only they haven’t succeeded in quelling opposition to the occupation.

    A sometimes overlooked side-effect of the US being overstretched in Iraq is that it hasn’t been free to intervene as it likes elsewhere. I’m pretty sure they’d have tried to invade Venezuela by now if they had the troops and the public support, which they don’t because of Iraq.

    As for the “sense of grievance”, millions of people around the world have very legitimate grievances about all kinds of issues. In many places, where those people are Muslims, those grievances are expressed in religious, even fundamentalist terms. Respect is trying to express grievances over everything from imperialism to crap housing in secular terms. But you can only express people’s grievances if you recognise them as existing, and being valid. Rather than me waffling on abstractly, could you specify which grievances you’re referring to that you don’t think we should be “nursing”?

  17. worraller said:

    ‘And didn’t he tell Syrians they are lucky to be ruled by Assad? Ugh.’

    That is the spin that has been put on it, yes. But I took it as meaning it was the only one of the old pan-Arab nationalist, Baathist states that remained independent of USA, unlike Iraq and Egypt.

    Naturally this has been converted into the usual bunk about slavish support for dictators etc. It’s schoolboy stuff.

  18. George C said:

    Meaders? The same who didn’t know the name of the last French president and then deleted comments that quietly pointed out his stupidity while changing his post? Whats a [pointless insult] like that doing here? He must be taking time off from [stupid accusation of anti-semitism] with the Atzmon groupies of the SWP.

    Edited by Nosemonkey – as will other similarly stupid comments in future. Swearing, no problem; highlighting supposed inconsistencies from any of our contributors (including the editors), no problem; unwarranted personal insults and stupid accusations backed up with no evidence, problem.

  19. Sylvia said:

    George C: “Whats a [pointless insult] like that doing here?”

    I don’t know, George C, what ARE you doing here?

    (Also edited by Nosemonkey, just for consistency’s sake…)

  20. George C – this is not the place for that sort of comment. Bugger off or apologise, or you’ll be deleted in future, rather than merely edited. Cheers.

  21. Look everyone, this was a really good post and it deserves more than being sidetracked down the usual Iraq dead-end. Can we please stick to Respect, local politics, TH, etc. Thanks.

    George, any more of that crap, I’ll delete. That’s not how we do things round here. There are plenty of places to hang out for tedious slander and a scrap. Ta.

  22. Who would have thought a post on Respect would turn into a thread full of trolls and people pointing out that George Galloway is the antichrist…

    I predict someone will soon use the word “Islamofascist” and it will be followed by “zionist”…

  23. I’m Bangladeshi, and although I don’t live in Tower Hamlets, I know many others who do. I’m familiar with the issues of poor housing, social deprivation, inadequate services in the area so I was amazed to see Oona King, who was pretty capable, lose her seat to Galloway, who’s pretty useless, a couple of years ago. But that was during the strife leading up to the war and I know a protest vote when I see one.

    Bangladeshis have firsthand memories of seeing their people butchered by an imperialist army (Pakistan) in 1971. There is an identification with the people of Iraq that is brought about from seeing images of the war on TV. In my opinion the war and protest of it is the only reason why the Bengali community have voted with their feet for RESPECT.

    Those who argue that RESPECT’s success in Tower Hamlets was some Islamist vote instigated by the SWP do not understand the political dynamics of either Bengali society or the East End. There is no evidence, in my mind, that political Islam played any role in Asian (or in this case, Bangladeshi) voting patterns in these local elections.

    This is a lie perpetuated by anti-Muslim prejudice and the consequential fallout caused by the internecine rivalries between factions of the Left.

    When Nick Cohen trots out pieces like this, we know that he is willing to malign entire communities for the sake of point-scoring on the basis of intellectual rivalries and his shitty [Euston] Manifesto.

  24. DanS said:

    Donald:

    To attempt to answer your question, Respect election strategy was to stand where we knew we were strong, and outside of london to concentrate on individual wards to try to get a foothold in councils. Thus we stood in TH and Newham because we had done exceptionally well there previously. We had not done so well in Hackney, I presume, so we didn’t stand. It might be the case (though I don’t think it was) that we haven’t been so successful in Hackney because they are the wrong kind of muslims, but that wasn’t what informed electoral policy.

    Outside of London, Birmingham and Preston we only stood ones and twos. This is at least in part because we needed to create a focus for local groups, but also because we had seen how effective having one councillor could be. In Lockleaze, as you’ve said, we could hardly be said to be courting the Muslim vote alone. Same for Cambridge Romsey Ward (where I live). Princes Park (Where I grew up) is hardly a muslim dominated community. Yes it has the only Mosque in Liverpool, but it is largely Afro-Carribean or African, with our candidate being a member of that community.

  25. Phil E said:

    What’s getting lost in the (only too predictable) crossfire is the question of RESPECT’s strategic orientation. Speaking as a supporter of the Socialist Alliance (RIP), my perception is that – while RESPECT may have an eminently respectable Old Labour programme – their current prominence is owed largely to the ability to tap into actually-existing networks within Asian communities. This is the most economical explanation of their success in specific wards in Preston, say – and for the decision to focus efforts in Manchester on Rusholme, which is a decision I’d find hard to justify on any other groumds.

    Once in power – even at local level, even in opposition – RESPECT are going to have to start trying to deliver on their programme; if their programme is what Meaders describes, this will be a good thing. From that point of view, the more RESPECT are put in a position of being asked to deliver, the better – even if the mobilisation which gets them there isn’t entirely class-based. But I don’t think the means/end question will go away. Ultimately I just want to say to Meaders: do you believe that RESPECT’s appeal is not, in any way, communal – that Bengali voters (say) are only hearing the same appeals as any other voter?

  26. noel said:

    Nosemonkey – you’re being a touch over sensitive there me old mucker…I hardly think my post was a ‘heated argument’ so chill out…

    Donald, where Respect stands or doesn’t has a lot to do with, where people have stood before (camden for instance) and where activists think it they can pull off a campaign, because to reiterate my point, it is a small organisation with limited resources…ok?!

  27. Noel – as one of the founders/editors of this place, I decide. Not a democracy on here. “Stop talking crap” may not be as over the top as old George C up above, but it’s still not the kind of opening remark we’re looking for. And having only recently relaunched, we’re going to be rather tight on this for a while. There’s around 40,000,000 other blogs where that sort of opener to a comment is fine. The Sharpener is intended to be the exception.

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  29. Meaders said:

    (Didn’t take long for my stalker to turn up, then. “Not knowing the name of…” should read “not knowing how to spell name of…” God knows why he gets so upset about it.)

    Anyway… onto Phil E:

    Ultimately I just want to say to Meaders: do you believe that RESPECT’s appeal is not, in any way, communal – that Bengali voters (say) are only hearing the same appeals as any other voter?

    There’s a major problem, as pointed out in the piece, with trying to run a communalist campaign based on the “Bengali vote”: that vote is split, as the close results in TH show. So we can’t rely on networks within the Bengali community to deliver a solid vote – we have to go some way beyond them – hence door-to-door canvassing, stalls, leafet drops – the usual drill. (New Labour, interestingly, didn’t appear to bother canvassing in some central wards.) We’re necessarily having to make our appeal somewhat broader.

    Do I think Bengalis are “hearing the same appeals” as everyone else? Yes, but for reasons relating partly to the war on terror and subsequent invasion of Iraq, but largely (at local council level) to the fact that working-class Bengalis have received a very raw deal from New Labour in TH it is heard more clearly. Their experience, of both the culture of graft at the council, and the failure of New Labour to deliver basic social services, has been far worse than that for others in Tower Hamlets – it’s not that the issues are different, and certainly Respect’s interpretation of them has been to argue for class-based politics.

    What Respect has managed to do, that is different from the Socialist Alliance, is present itself as a credible alternative to New Labour. That has depended, nationally, on a deep disillusionment with Blairism – thanks to the war – and, locally, on our ability to attract serious ex-Labour members and supporters.

    Of course, one of the reasons Respect does better in “Bengali” areas (though see above on demographics) is precisely because New Labour, aided here by Nick Cohen, have so diligently presented the argument that this is an “Islamist” party, or a “communalist” vote. We have cracked through that, to some extent, on council house privatisation, but we’re not there yet.

  30. Phil E said:

    one of the reasons Respect does better in “Bengali” areas (though see above on demographics) is precisely because New Labour, aided here by Nick Cohen, have so diligently presented the argument that this is an “Islamist” party, or a “communalist” vote. We have cracked through that, to some extent, on council house privatisation, but we’re not there yet.

    If you’re working against that perception, what happened in Manchester? Why give up on the three wards where RESPECT stood a candidate last time out, in favour of a fourth ward, Rusholme (where a Lib Dem incumbent faced a reasonably sound old-Labour leftist)? The impression it gives is precisely of short-cutting the grind of building up a critical mass of support by tapping into existing, non-political, community networks. I’m not saying this is enough to win seats – it wasn’t enough in Rusholme, after all, or for that matter in every seat in Tower Hamlets. But I suspect it can make the difference between starting nowhere and finishing sixth, and starting fourth and finishing second.

  31. noel said:

    hmmm…so Nosemonkey the word ‘crap’ is on the banned list hey…phew better not get really p*s*ed off then hey?! What if I thought he was? Is ‘rubbish’ allowed? I did after all back up my non-swearing with some facts…oh well…

    Scratch a liberal and what do you get?!

  32. Noel, old bean – do I have to make it any clearer? Our site, our rules. Which I’m currently making up on the trot in response to people like you and George.

    The comment policy here is simple – be civil. Debate is fine. Heated debate is fine. Disagreeing with anything posted here is positively welcome, as long as it’s backed up with reasoned argument and a few facts. Swearing is fine as well – we’re all grown-ups and aren’t going to be shocked by it (beyond thinking it shows a certain lack of verbal dexterity).

    But if you want to lurch into agressive arguments by beginning comments with “you’re talking crap”, piss off to any other part of the internet – this is meant to be an oasis of calm amidst the shouty mass of inanity that seems to crop up in the comment sections of most other blogs.

    If you insist on continuing to act all prissy and belligerent, I’ll take great pleasure in deleting your comments and blocking your IP address, because it simply isn’t very interesting. Understood?

  33. bat020 said:

    The impression it gives is precisely of short-cutting the grind of building up a critical mass of support by tapping into existing, non-political, community networks.

    Nahella Ashraf, the Respect candidate in Rusholme, came third – not sixth as you claim – winning 22% of the vote. She was selected because she was a well known housing activist in the area. To describe her or the network around her as “non-political” is at best ignorant and at worst patronising.

  34. Phil E said:

    Nahella Ashraf, the Respect candidate in Rusholme, came third – not sixth as you claim

    Re-read. “Starting nowhere and finishing sixth” was my take on what would have happened without RESPECT’s networking skillz. Point taken about the Rusholme candidate, but I don’t think removing ‘non-political’ changes my argument greatly; how about

    short-cutting the grind of building up a critical mass of support by tapping into existing community networks?