A way out of the EU constitution problem?
With the French referendum vote too close to call, if you’re a pro-EU pessimist like me this is getting a tad too nerve-wracking. Given that Britain will almost certainly opt for a “No†vote in any referendum, the whole exercise of constitutional ratification also seems rather futile.
To turn Britain’s vote around would have taken a long, sustained period of campaigning which simply hasn’t yet materialised. Now there is too little time – especially as the campaign won’t kick off until at least after Blair’s managed to consolidate and work out his post-election position, and thanks to the European Parliament voting to overturn the UK’s opt-out from the working time directive, looking like yet more Brussels meddling, if a referendum happens, Britain will vote no.
If Britain is the country that scuppers the EU’s chances of advancing, it will be well nigh impossible to regain the trust of the other EU member states when it comes to matters of the Union. The constitution has already been watered down to become more acceptable to the UK, much to the chagrin of the French, and it would be pretty tricky to dilute it any further without making the bloody thing even more pointless and meaningless than it already is.
So, if Britain rejects a constitutional treaty seen in a number of quarters to be pandering to British Euroreluctance (which is, I reckon, a rather more accurate description of the prevailing attitude in the UK than Euroscepticism), it is going to be pretty damn difficult to get our voice seriously heard in any post-rejection negotiations for an alternative. The tendency on the continent will simply be to think “sod that – we’ve tried our best to keep the rosbeefs happy already, let’s just ignore the reactionary bastards” and progress without us.
This could, actually, be the best thing for the EU. Dump Britain – we’re shit, merely acting like a ball and chain around your proverbial ankle.
It would, however, as much as the more hardcore Eurosceptics in this country may celebrate, be a disaster for Britain. By sitting on the sidelines while the rest of the EU moves ahead, not only would we no longer be able to influence the future direction of the EU project (after all, why would you listen to the kid who doesn’t want to play while you’re charging around the playground with your mates?), but we would no longer be able to maintain that wonderfully privileged position we currently hold of being one of the big three of European politics while maintaining a modicum of distance.
It is Britain’s ability to be involved – but not too involved thanks to our avoiding joining the Eurozone – at the heart of the EU which attracts non-European powers to us as a broker. Yes, us speaking the same language as America helps, but does anyone really think it is just a coincidence that the closest relationships the UK and US have shared in the post-war period have been since Britain joined the European Community?
Up until the early 1970s, the US refused to give us long range nukes, buggered up our chances at Suez, and repeatedly neglected to inform us of its Cold War plans. They were a rival as much as a friend – but a rival with far more power and against whom we had absolutely no leverage. After joining the EEC, Britain finally had something to offer – a subtle means of communication and influence with Brussels and the western European states, most of whom – at the time – resented the presence of US troops on their soil and the fact that it would be their homelands which would see the brunt of the damage in any hot war that grew out of America’s standoff with the USSR. Today, the US wants (though still doesn’t need) European support on the international stage – and Britain is its ambassador.
This position would be impossible to maintain if we are no longer close to the centre of EU power which, no matter how much anti-EU voices may claim we have little ability to influence anything in Brussels, at the moment we – along with France and Germany – most certainly are.
I am not claiming that if Britain fails to ratify the EU constitution there will be an instant implosion. In fact, there will be bugger all in terms of immediate change to our situation. But those EU countries which wanted to push ahead will resent what would effectively have amounted to a veto on their chosen direction from the British people. The attitude will be, if Britain is the only country to vote against, “fine – they don’t want to join in, they don’t want to move forward, so we’ll press on without them.†This won’t be immediate. It will take a few years, as the constitution is redrafted and renegotiated. But it will come. Britain is already seen as a reluctant partner – rejection of the constitution will tip this feeling over the edge into outright resentment.
The best outcome, if you take this pessimistic view of the constitution’s chances, is for any country OTHER than Britain to vote “Noâ€Â. France would be an ideal choice, as the resentment would then be focused on to her – and there has been a lot of resentment of the French within the EU ever since Paris managed to negotiate various preferential terms for French exports and industry in the Treaty of Rome. France has continued to hold an influence in excess of her size or economic might ever since the 1950s, and a French “Non†would simply make this even clearer to the other EU member states. They would see France as voting against to maintain her own power, not for the good of the Union – and in subsequent renegotiations, France would find herself with too much resentment and opposition to get her way, just as would Britain.
But there is promise of a better candidate to both halt the constitution AND prevent acrimonious post-rejection squabbling. The “No” camp in Holland is currently leading in the polls with 60% – compared to just 21% for the “Yes” camp. That’s even worse than in Britain – and the Dutch referendum is less than three weeks away, on June 1st.
While the Netherlands may be small, it was one of the original six, so its reservations really couldn’t be ignored. There is far less history of anti-EU troublemaking there than in Britain, and Holland has less to lose than France from the constitution’s attempts to bring greater equality to the EU.
If Holland rejects, then the thing would actually be able to be reassessed in a rational, non-confrontational manner. It may be possible to finally take our time over this thing, and produce a blueprint for future change within the EU which is not only better, but clearer than the rambling vagaries of the current document. And, of course, Britain would not get the blame – which really should be the biggest consideration for anyone in the UK’s pro-EU camp.
If Britain is seen to bugger up the rest of Europe’s chances, the anger and irritation towards us will be even greater than that experienced by us towards the EU this week when we got told we had lost one of our opt outs. If Holland does it, the surprise will be such that genuine reassessment will be possible. Fingers crossed for June 1st…
I read somewhere (I THINK it was the economist) that there was a meeting where the various foreign ministers tried to come up with a coherent, general, summary of what the Constitution would mean, so as to be able to broadcast a consistent and strong yes message across europe. The meeting fell into disarray because the various countries had radically different ideas of what the text actually implied. If the people who NEGOTIATED it can’t agree on what’s in it, how are we to know?
Well, it depends on where you are. British, Dutch, and French voters all have their own little hermeneutic cycle with the Constitution. Of course, it is the same text, but perception changes everything. The selling point of the yes camp in Britain is the threat of the yes camp in France.
While in Britain the Yes camp tells us it secures the free market model and stops the advance of federalism, the Yes camp in France is saying that ONLY the Constitution can stop the EU from being merely a “trading bloc,” end the “ultra-liberalism” (free-market economics,) and replace it with a real “social model”(federation.) Just as the Yes camps are pandering to local philosophy, so too the No camps is preying on essentially regional fears.
The only consistent thing about the campaigns is that nobody will be voting on the actual text, because they haven’t read it (myself included.) These referenda have come to represent a chance for the electorate to express themselves on entirely unrelated, often purely philosophical, issues, partly because this is the only chance some voters may ever have to make their approval/disapproval of the EU itself heard and effective.
Also, sorry to sound TOO pro-French (I do live here after all) but it is in fact the largest country in Europe. It is also the fourth largest economy in the world. That doesn’t mean they deserve QUITE that much in subsidies, but still, it counts a little.
Your points about us missing out were we to be the only dissenting voice are valid, but I think you underestimate how much the EU would lose out if they were to sideline us. The majority of the 10 new members are very much on our side (France being the other side ;)) and wouldn’t be too happy if we were to be ousted.
At the mo, the EU is driven by a German-Anglo-French axis, as opposed to the old Franco-German one. Most of the EU’s members are much happier this way round, because, sotto voce at least, they all want to see French influence curtailed. Romano Prodi didn’t even bother with the sotto voce – after the Nice summit, he said something along the lines of “there is one word to describe how such a complicated system has come about: France.”
I, for example, don’t reject the constitution on principle, that would be daft and lazy. I reject it because saying yes to it would be saying yes to the unbridled one-way traffic of power to brussels, it would be saying yes to the most corrupt people outside of south america, the MEPs, and most of all it would be saying yes to Valery Giscard d’Estaing – perhaps even more of a prick than Gorgeous George.
If the EU could, as they said they would, give us a constitution which returned some powers to the national countries, was much less confusing and served as more than a political totem and green light for brussels to do what it wanted, I’d vote yes. I don’t want to see us shunted out of the forefront of european politics, but I don’t want us to roll over and let Brussels butt-fuck us some more.
I decided I had better do something to repair my ignorance about the Constitution, and while I don’t particularly want to actually READ the damn thing, I found a nifty little association founded by Dutch “No” MEP Jens Peter Bonde, who have made a reader-friendly version, and, (and this is what I recommend for visual learners like myself) a powerpoint presentation!! (scroll down this page)
Be wary of Bonde – he’s not entirely objective. His wife’s behind the EU Observer news site (which is actually normally fairly good), but he’s a definite eurosceptic – albeit for slightly different reasons than most UK anti-EU people. His interpretation of the constitution is unlikely to be unbiased.
Having said that, the constitution itself is so self-contradicatory and vague that one interpretation is as good as any other. Its strength has been its weakness – by trying to encompass all the various viewpoints it has become effectively meaningless in terms of broad agenda. Which is precisely why some member states can argue it prevents further federalism while others say it is a step on the road to a United States of Europe. Actually, it’s neither – just an imperfect compromise.
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excerpt: – “… I am pro-EU and pro-Euro, and I am in favour of an inter-governmental EU, with the Scottish government as a full participant. I will certainly be keeping my fingers crossed for success in either France or the Netherlands, or preferably both… “
Don’t think I’d really say its too close to call in France anymore. I think its likely to pass. Opinion polls have had the “oui” side up – narrowly, but consistently – for two weeks now.
As for Holland, I don’t see much hope there. Perhaps you – or someone else – could expand on whats making the vote so negative in the Netherlands. Is it something to do with the trouble with Islam and immigration?
It’s hard to pin down exactly what the Dutch gripe is, but broadly: they have a lot of immigrants; and they are one of the biggest net contributors (the biggest?) and are increasingly pissed off of what they’re getting back now all the poor eastern boys have joined the party.
Ben – there’s quite a lot over at Frans Groenendijk’s blog – mostly in English to boot. It’s in part due to a fear of loss of influence thanks to their small population size, but seems mostly to be because – like in the UK – the “No” vote will be more easily mobilised: turnout isn’t expected to be much over 35%. Althgouh that is, naturally, a massive oversimplification.
Signs of conversion: a Frenchwoman I know well was initially against on grounds of insufficient leftiness, but has now read the thing and flipflopped.
And are you serious about the MEPs being the most corrupt group of people outside South America? I refer you to my column in this month’s Brussels Sprout, in which I argue that corruption ought to be a national responsibility because it’s better organised at the nation-state level.
Alex – re: corruption, don’t forget that the only time EU news is reported in the UK is when they bugger something up. “Commission official / MEP does job diligently, makes positive difference to thousands of lives” doesn’t make quite as good a headline… And if anyone did try to report anything positive they’d just be accused of being an EU stooge and spreading propaganda.
This isn’t meant to be a personal attack on Paul by any means, but for a lot of people only tangentially interested in EU affairs the only thing that they’ll hear about is the negative. Especially if their newspaper of choice is the Times, Telegraph, Mail, Express, Sun etc. etc.
Nosemonkey: For many people on the anti-side, the issue isn’t with how competent the EU might be, it’s the very existence of another layer of essentially pointless management & bureaucracy that rankles. Hence the widespread negative coverage. Any stick to beat a dog…
The yes campaign is indeed pretty effective. Last Saturday they had a “big european picnic” in the Jardin d’Arsenal, which I sadly missed because I was, ironically, in Holland.
However this week, I shall be attending these events culled from a french website:
17/5/05, time tbd: Maison de l’Europe a Paris, 35 rue des Francs Bourgeois, 75004. The European Outlook after the British elections and before the French referendum. Speaker: one Richard Corbett MEP, apparently one of Blighty’s Constitution monkeys. For more info, email maison-europe@paris-europe.com
17/5/05, 6:30: IN the National Assembly Building!!! Salle Victor Hugo, meet a bunch of Socialists. Just go for the venue.
18/5/05, 8:30: in the Cirque d’Hiver in the 11th. Lots of PS top dogs. Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe, PS leader Francois Hollande, erstwhile EU Commission President Jacques Delors, and two people I’ve never heard of called Jack Lang and Dominique Strauss-Kahn. Sound British and German don’t they? UPDATE: both former ministers under Mitterand and possible 2007 socialist presidential candiates.
31/5/05, 6pm: Maison de l’Europe (address above) The consequences of the referendum to adopt the treaty for a European Constitution. Maybe dull and self-congratulatory. Could be bloody.
And are you serious about the MEPs being the most corrupt group of people outside South America?
Of course not. I always forget that flippancy never translates over the web. Ah well. Besides, technically I guess they’re not corrupt at all, because it’s all legal. Cue copy and paste from something I wrote about it recently:
“In 2002, the EU’s chief accountant, Marta Andreasen suggested that the EU’s budget – approximately €100 billion a year – was “completely vulnerable to fraud and errorâ€Â. How dare she! Her honesty was duly rewarded in the only way politics knows how – she was sacked.
“A big problem is that a lot of the amoral activities of the MEPs aren’t actually illegal. For example, they pay a special rate of income tax that is far lower than the European average; they can now make about £800 a week on their travel allowance – by claiming the most expensive notional fare before hopping on an easyJet; they can claim their £180 daily attendance allowance on days when they do no work; they can pocket a further £2,400 a month for “general expensesâ€Â, which remain completely unaudited and £10,000 a month for secretarial allowance, most of which ends up in the accounts of immediate family members. All tax-free, of course.
To their credit, an amendment to this situation was proposed and voted on last month. It’s subsequent rejection makes all the above officially clean and above board. If accountability were a disease, the EU would be a cure-all antidote.”
This isn’t meant to be a personal attack on Paul by any means, but for a lot of people only tangentially interested in EU affairs the only thing that they’ll hear about is the negative. Especially if their newspaper of choice is the Times, Telegraph, Mail, Express, Sun etc. etc.
I’d like to think I have slightly more than a tangential interest in EU affairs. I ‘studied’ the damn thing as part of my degree for a start. Admittedly, I ultimately don’t give a shit, but I do know about what goes on, good and bad.
My newspaper of choice is The Economist. Make of that what you will. I like to think it would suggest ‘free of party politics; for free-thinking and competence’, but I have as deep a distrust of people who base their views on what newspaper they read as I do of members of political parties, religious zealots and Arsenal fans.
Of course, being ‘for competence’ does make me pretty much congenitally opposed to the constitution as it stands.
ah balls. apologies for mucking up the html/italics stuff. Hopefully you can see which bits are other people’s points.
If you could choose to pay for the EU or not on an individual basis. How many would choose to? Especially when they saw the bill, and what they got for their money.
No thanks!
And if you could choose whether to pay income tax, council tax, vat etc. etc. or not on an individual basis how many would choose to? I have no children, haven’t been to the doctor’s in ages, haven’t been a victim of crime in years. What do I get for my tax money?
That’s a non-argument, I’m afraid.
According to pollsters, there is a big chance that majorities of both Dutch and French voters could reject the proposed European Union Constitution.
On Sunday 29 May, the referendum is in France.
On Wednesday 1 June, the referendum is in The Netherlands.
I’ll try to do live blogging in the evenings (Central European time) of both days on the results; here.
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“What do I get for my tax money?”
Very Bad value
“That’s a non-argument, I’m afraid. ”
Not at all, its a start.
Allow people to opt out of funding the EU, NHS, Pensions, Unemployment, Child Benefit, “Free”Schooling for your children etc, each opt-out removing a %age of income tax ,right down to ZERO.
Just leave the proper functions of the State i.e. Law and Order and Defence on a Land value (%age) tax.
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