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Comments on: Cameron’s Care Bears http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/camerons-care-bears/ Trying to make a point Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Wolfie http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19946 Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:06:04 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/10/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19946 Eddie,

Lets not get into semantic hair-splitting on this point. You have not gone into great detail on how you would go about fixing these problems so I’ve had to surmise your stance from your tone. I’ll give you an example;

We run a stable together and your favourite horse is sick. You want to spend a lot of money on a good vet and I want to shoot it and sell the meat.

Suffice to say from my point of view you don’t want to tackle the issue – that the horse is a no-hoper. Its not an ad hominem, its semantics.

]]> By: Eddie http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19781 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:21:30 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/10/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19781 “I don’t think your solutions would be in any way similar to mine. That’s all.”

That is very different from suggesting I wouldn’t like to tackle the problem.

]]> By: Antipholus Papps http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19673 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:50:20 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/10/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19673 I think you’re missing something here – namely, the privatisation of prisons and the parole service. Punishment for profit and a populace without rights. Tag ’em, bang ’em up, pile ’em high.

You’re quite right though – we are on a trajectory of mass extermination for deviants. Arbeit macht frei and all that.

]]> By: Wolfie http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19569 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:12:56 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/10/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19569 “And then to say that I wouldn’t like to tackle them…”

I don’t think your solutions would be in any way similar to mine. That’s all.

]]> By: dearieme http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19395 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:04:01 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/10/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19395 The Bolsheviks proved quite effective on the problems of the feral children left over from the Civil War.

]]> By: Eddie http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19393 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:04:09 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/10/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19393 I’m not even sure if that’s a serious comment. Did you actually read the parts of my post where I said we have to tackle the causes of crime, but accepted that no one will ever do so because it’s too difficult, requiring too much soul searching and, of course, money?

And then to say that I wouldn’t like to tackle them… simply astonishing.

]]> By: Wolfie http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19391 Tue, 11 Jul 2006 08:31:22 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/10/camerons-care-bears/#comment-19391 Indeed I do care.

However I am sad to see that you have fallen into the same trap the press did regarding Cameron’s speech and took a momentary allegorical vehicle to be the entire substance of his argument. While it wasn’t exactly inspirational it was not quite so devoid of intelligence as you have summarised.

Throwing young offenders in jail, giving them ASBOs and reformation programmes in general are rather like a doctor continually applying treatments to deal with symptoms rather than the root causes of the disease, however no politician can deal with these as they would be political suicide. I don’t think even you would like them either.

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