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Comments on: A design for life? http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/05/a-design-for-life/ Trying to make a point Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Katie Bartleby http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/05/a-design-for-life/#comment-11470 Wed, 10 May 2006 14:12:54 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/05/07/a-design-for-life/#comment-11470 Yusuf – Yes, but the problem is getting local authorities to realise that spending money on getting the design right on mass social housing is actually going to save them money in the long run, by saving on maintenance, policing, and, in extreme cases, having to knock it all down and start again in 15 years.

I agree, grand designs folk are often obscenely wealthy. The really interesting projects are the ones where first time buyers decide that they won’t accept what’s out there and build what they want on a tight budget. However, they’re invariably middle class. As with many things it’s empowered people that are more proactive first, and then people with less power feel more able to say “look, they did it, I can too”.

Donald – Same point about value for money not being the same thing as low cost on design and construction. I will look into that patch of modernism.

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By: Donald/TheJarndyceBlog http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/05/a-design-for-life/#comment-11461 Wed, 10 May 2006 12:41:06 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/05/07/a-design-for-life/#comment-11461 IMO it seems that most of the problems that we have with “modernist” design stem from us trying to do it on the cheap in the 1950s and 60s, which has created horrendous no-go areas in estates. Decent architects would have realised that effectively closing these spaces off (rather than opening them up) to the outside world was bound to cause problems. The Holden Piccadilly line station designs, after all, are iconic and still work.

Oh, and if you have any interest in London’s little patch of domestic modernism, check out Kerry Ave. and Valencia Rd., up the hill opposite Stanmore tube station. Absolutely fantastic – and hardly anyone knows about it.

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By: Yusuf Smith http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/05/a-design-for-life/#comment-11460 Wed, 10 May 2006 12:11:10 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/05/07/a-design-for-life/#comment-11460 While I agree with the principle of demolishing ghastly buildings which have fallen into disrepair, surely one of the problems we have in London is that social housing is thin on the ground, house prices are sky high, and it is fuelling racial tensions as we saw in Dagenham last week.

And Alain de Botton’s Japanese subjects and the families featured in Grand Designs are hardly models for mass housing, because they all seemed to be wealthy people. One of the families on GD was a Dutch banker and his wife who was able to set up a whole architect’s practice to design their dream home in an old fiddle factory in South London, and they had a seven- or eight-figure budget (which came in handy when they used the wrong bricks for one outside wall, which may have led to a whole chunk of their interior being taken down and rebuilt). Mass housing can take some ideas from such projects but they have to be more realistic, and we do need more of it.

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