Comments on: No-one has the magic formula for racial harmony

By: dearieme

dearieme — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:44:59 +0000

The Hitler business showed that race, and race/religion, can be dynamite. Post-WWII European politicians largely ignored this lesson and took quite unnecessary, and asymmetrical, gambles on mass immigration. Why?

By: Shuggy

Shuggy — Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:35:45 +0000

I very much agree with your point about people having short memories. And I think people are forgetting also how high youth unemployment is always and everywhere corrosive to any 'social model'.

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:53:46 +0000

Yes, I know you didn’t say there wasn’t any minority successes in the UK. My point was that I think a lot of minorities have done particularly well in the UK compared to the length of time they’ve had communities in this country. I think more so than can be said about other European countries.

War, between nationalists and Islamists. We see in Denmark they publish cartoons of Mohammed with a bomb on his head etc, various MP’s in Denmark and Holland have death threats against them from Islamists, and now what happens in France.
Maybe I am paranoid but I am very concerned about how the next 20 years will turn-out.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:07:03 +0000

Dave, I didn’t say that no-one from ethnic minorities did well in the UK. As you pont out, many do. There are, however, ethnic minority communities in all western countries, not just France, that remain isolated.

There are plenty of Africans doing well in sport in France, you only have to look at their football team to see that. I don’t know if there are any African-French millionaires as the French don’t keep records on that sort ofothing!

Who do you think the war will be between?

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:35:01 +0000

I must say I don’t agree. I am no expert on the issue but it seems to me that Britain and the USA recognise their minority groups and try to deal with them one way or another through integration or multi-culturalist policies. In Britain and the USA yes we can still see a lot of poor-ish people in some run down communities sometimes appearing as if the divisions are along race lines, however you also see a lot of Blacks and Asians doing extremely well. Look at all the Blacks in sport for example, all the Indian Doctors, the Hindu Billionaires etc etc.
When I look at France and other European countries which have had these large levels of mass-immigration like Britain I don’t see the same thing, to an outsider France still looks like a 98% white society when infact it is nothing of the kind especially amoung the young.

You say we will all get another round of riots, I agree if immigration continues to run out of control but I don’t think its inevitable.

Personally I can see another war coming, France and Germany are more nationalistic than Britain and now they are starting to realise the extent of the situation I think they are going to react badly.