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Comments on: An Introduction to Peak Oil http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/ Trying to make a point Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Carnival of the Capitalists http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-46800 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:03:03 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-46800 […] just to check. Posted by: Jay on Oct 09, 06 | 8:59 pm [0] comments (0 views) |  Permalink [0] Trackbacks     MainBlogroll […]

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By: Craig http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-38165 Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:12:23 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-38165 Whatever happened to parts two and three?

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By: Chicken Yoghurt » Jim Bliss: An Introduction to Peak Oil http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-28772 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:53:47 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-28772 […] the rest… permalink | trackback | print this | filed under chicken nuggets, …in a handcart related postsNone […]

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By: Peak Oil News http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-14022 Sat, 27 May 2006 03:39:30 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-14022 The end of the oil age does not have to mean complete disaster for humanity. As we can see from the steadily increasing high oil prices, this is certainly going to mean a huge change in society. This change is likely to occur slower but will be widespread. We can already witness see the effect of high gas prices as more americans are already driving less to save gas. As demand for alternatives increases we will see these technologies become more mainstream. This may take another 20-30 years – we are certainly not going to witness an overnight energy revolution.

More Peak Oil Resources

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By: Alex Kuhlman http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-3486 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:32:35 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-3486 Alternatives are never going to replace fossil fuels at the rate and scale at which the world currently uses them and humankind’s ingenuity will simply not overcome the facts of geology & physics. Physicist J. Huebner found that our current rate of innovation is about the same as it was in 1600 and by 2024 it will have slumped to the same level as it was in the Dark Ages. Good overview of the problem of peak oil and the fallacy of alternatives is http://www.oildecline.com

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By: The Perfect Excuse » UK Indymedia - Sweden to become independent of oil by 2020 http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-3263 Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:25:13 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-3263 […] can say is Well Played Sweden. I don’t think oil’s gonna last the planet much more than 50 years so it’s obviously time to start moving to alternative energy supplies. I personally d […]

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By: The Sharpener » How do you solve a problem like terrorism? http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-2351 Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:06:11 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-2351 […] rs, and fundamentalist medieval-mindset clerics, we still shouldn’t do it for purely strategic reasons. This post was prompted by this, over at Chicken Yoghurt, where a few of us agreed that we re […]

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By: EU Serf http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-1954 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:10:22 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-1954 Rather than your rather scary global state idea, surely there are other ways to deal with peak oil.

If large consumers of oil increased their taxes on energy consumption and if poor nations stopped subsidizing oil products, the world’s economy would become a little less dependent on oil. More expensive fuel for our cars increases the incentives for research into alternatives.

To those who think we have made no progress in the last twenty years, you are wrong. We haven’t crossed the magic border of cheaper than oil with any alternative technology, but we creep towards it each year.

With the current exorbitant oil prices look for a flurry of activity on the alternatives front. I am backing biodiesel to make a big splash in the next few years.

Bioethanol is very energy inefficient. Biodiesel is better.

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By: dearieme http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-1373 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:43:34 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-1373 bio-ethanol- you could try the 7th July post at http://futurepundit.com/

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By: MattAG http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/07/peak-oil-101/#comment-1129 Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:28:10 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=41#comment-1129 Great article looking forward to parts 2&3.

I have found ‘peak oil’ to confound many aware people (myself included). How is it that such a serious problem has been missed? The arguments surrounding this subject have taken on almost religious fervor since the 70’s, even dividing folks who actually read the ‘Limits to Growth’. This is particularly interesting from a psychological point of view, in that, even smart educated folk can deny the reasoned arguments based on actual data…. I digress.

The problem is fundamentally rooted in belief, and here we are ALL complicit (to some degree, ignorance is a poor excuse in the developed world) in our consent of this highly unsatisfactory situation. It would seem indisputable that oil supplies will become scarce in short order. It is also morally reprehensible to do nothing about it (at the very best here this is akin to spending our children’s inheritance, at worst its mass murder).

Optimists in my experience tend to respond to the issue with the well meaning espousal of the best aspects of human nature, e.g. as presented in a recent letter to the Guardian Saturday 2nd June, ‘ why don’t we just build Solar Power stations in the desert (to produce hydrogen from water), leasing the land from African nations and solving the coming energy crisis, global warming and African poverty in one fell swoop’. With a cursory understanding of the technicalities this intuitively makes a lot of sense, and surely there must be smart people who can sort this out!? Surely….

I have some scientific training and was studying sustainable technologies 20 years ago (ok I was 15, but still, I did the Math). Since then I have attempted to understand the challenges that face us. Those of you who think ‘Technology and Human ingenuity will save us’, are not seeing the sheer scale of this issue. Technologically things haven’t changed all that much in 20 years, in as much as there are STILL no candidates to replace oil, and the odds of discovering one are vanishingly small. After all oil is a rare and magical gift that was created in rare and extraordinary geological conditions.

The problem has changed in one key respect however, we now have a lot less time to implement a solution. Hydrogen isn’t the alternative to transport fuel, for a variety of reasons (clearly lost on Mr. Bush). I am sure Jim B will explain why in his coming articles. I do think that it will have application in energy storage used in conjunction with intermittent power generation technologies, a problem common to almost all sustainable power generation technologies.

Recently there was a significant project, proposal presented to the EU, for the construction of a series supper massive solar power stations in the deserts of North Africa for the production of Hydrogen. This would then be distributed via the existing gas network. This was rejected last year on the basis of cost. This is because it would have been the largest construction project in human history by a long way, which would have been nice…

Which brings us to our current predicament, there is little or no consensus politically and publicly that a problem exists. It is not in the interests of the oil producing nations to come clean about the situation due to the perceived risks of alerting the public to the world wide deception that has been taking place under their/our noses.

Left to the markets a hydrogen economy would take a long time to emerge (remember there is no infrastructure in place and the required changes are both technologically and economically challenging to say the least, oil had 50+ years to achieve this ). I also believe that this and other options are beyond the resources of all (Transnational Corporations included) but the collective effort of the rich nations of the world.

On a more optimistic note ( there is a country that is making big strides in sustainability and has over the last 10 years pursued a policy of decoupling itself oil consumption. It has succeeded in cutting imports progressively while going through a period of economic growth. Additionally this period has seen the development of its own internal energy market, production capacity (from crops) and all this from a relative developing nation. I am of course speaking of Brazil.

Bio-ethanol production from crops now accounts for over 50% of the liquid fuel consumed domestically. This in addition to being sustainable (carbon neutral) releases less toxins than petroleum when burnt and has other benefits for the engine. In fact the original combustion engine was actually designed to run on ethanol, oil hadn’t been discovered at the time.

The political reasons for this where to escape the influence of Transnational Oil companies (and their pals) and to free this resource rich country from this yolk of cheap oil. It is however the sole example (to my knowledge) of a successful transition to a less dependant model for oil consumption.

The solution to these problems is not a religious faith in technology or the apparently inexhaustible depths of human ingenuity. It is simply that we need to acknowledge that there IS a problem and actually choose to do something about it. I am still confounded as to why this hasn’t happened yet.

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