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Comments on: Stopped clocks and mullet-haired petrolheads http://sharpener.johnband.org/2008/01/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/ Trying to make a point Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dunc http://sharpener.johnband.org/2008/01/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58942 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:19:58 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2008/01/07/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58942 I agree that there’s no direct risk from this information leaking…

But, it is potentially extremely useful for identity thieves using social engineering attacks to get past your bank’s call-centre staff, which is a class of attack that well-known media personalities are generally somewhat less at risk from. Mr Kwame probably won’t get very far phoning up claiming to be Mr Clarkson having forgotten his password.

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By: John B http://sharpener.johnband.org/2008/01/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58928 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:47:41 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2008/01/07/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58928 Are you confusing my comment with Andrew’s? Comments appear below names on this site…

In any case, I’d agree that you can report the case to the police – however, I think in most cases of reported crime (excepting domestic violence, crimes where the victim is a minor, etc) if the victim doesn’t want to press charges then charges won’t be pressed. I also think that the bank would legally be the victim in this scenario, so they may have the final say.

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By: Cleanthes http://sharpener.johnband.org/2008/01/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58927 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:35:09 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2008/01/07/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58927 John B,

You assume that you only complain to the bank. You will naturally do that because you want your money back and that is the best place to start.

Surely you could also complain to the police yourself?

Surely it’s not just up to the bank to raise the complaint that triggers the criminal prosecution?

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By: john b http://sharpener.johnband.org/2008/01/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58923 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:57:00 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2008/01/07/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58923 So if I were to pay my electricity bill by a direct debit from your account and you complained, then your bank would refund you without seeking to get the money back from my electricity supplier?

Or if my electricity supplier had to give your bank the money back, they wouldn’t report me for fraud (even though they weren’t at fault at all)?

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By: Andrew Paterson http://sharpener.johnband.org/2008/01/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58922 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:35:25 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2008/01/07/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58922 I wouldn’t be so sure about the getting jailed part, the criminal investigation has to come following a complaint made by the bank in question to the police, and they simply never make such complaints.

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By: Cleanthes http://sharpener.johnband.org/2008/01/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58921 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 10:05:16 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2008/01/07/stopped-clocks-and-mullet-headed-petrolheads/#comment-58921 “the only thing the miscreant can do is randomly transfer cash from people they’re annoyed with to charities they support”

But given that the transfer is fraudulent and is very likely to be challenged by the owner of bank account, it is of even less benefit to our miscreant, unless of course he wishes to piss off two lots of people at once, say by randomly transfer cash from people they’re annoyed with to charities they DON’T support…

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