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Comments on: British business under American rules http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/ Trying to make a point Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Murky.org » Blog Archive » Natwest Three http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-21474 Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:13:46 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-21474 […] The bottom line here is this: why should any UK citizen be deported without a prima facae case being made by the USA? […]

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By: Steve http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20973 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:31:39 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20973 Sue – fair point but British companies don’t even have to do much business in the US to be caught by SOX. Just having a few US shareholders is enough.

The NatWest 3 may be guilty, although I suspect that their crime was against their UK bank, rather than Enron shareholders, but under SOX, other UK businesses may find themselves prosecuted for minor infringements of US laws. That’s what I object to.

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By: Sue http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20862 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:37:45 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20862 Planeshift: “Also, assume for a moment the natwest 3 are guilty, is 20 years in a US federal jail a proportionate and appropiate punishment for a non-violent crime?”

Capitalism cannot survive unless rip-off artists are punished. A lot of American employees and small investors were ruined by the illegal shenanigans of Enron. I’d frankly rather be beaten up by a street thug, as I’d heal in a week or two, than have my life savings pissed away by amoral greedy businessmen. if British companies do not want to do business in America, that is certainly their right. But if they do, then play by the rules.

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By: Tim Worstall http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20752 Sun, 16 Jul 2006 12:06:46 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20752 Britblog Roundup # 74…

Yes! It’sthe Brotblog Roundup in it’s shrunken summer form, all svelte and ready for that bikini on the beach. Clearly people are on their hols rather than reading blogs and recommending things to us: you can change that by sending…

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By: Jonn http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20139 Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:52:39 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20139 There have been concerns that business is moving away from the US because of SOX – in the last couple of years, the destination of choice for international companies looking to raise capital has been London rather than New York.

This is scaring the crap out of the Americans – and a lot of the Republicans never liked SOX to start with because it puts such strains on business. So I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets rewritten at some point.

That said, I think that’ll be less likely if the Democrats get their majority in November. Every silver lining I guess.

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By: Wolfie http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20011 Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:25:02 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-20011 Well said Tingey.

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By: G. Tingey http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-19949 Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:57:03 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-19949 Sarbanes-Oxley IS having an effect – money is flowing to Britain and the rest of Europe, slowly at present, but the amount is increasing, as firms decide that they don’t have to put up with this crap.
Look forward to more investment in Europe, and less in the USA.

As for the Natwest3, it is a disgrace, since, as they have said -“If we have coomitted a crime, it was in Britain, and would be against British law – will someone PLEASE prosecute us?”
Deafening silence.

Something badly worng here ….

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By: James G. http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-19791 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:54:58 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-19791 Steve,
It may not have made the news, but I personally know of a couple of German executives who were under investigation for Enron. Not sure how far it got, though.

I think the really scary bit is that dead witness though…Wasn’t there one at the beginning of this scandal?

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By: Steve http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-19728 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:44:16 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-19728 Serf – I think the UK is very unlikley to tear up a treaty with the US, given our current political position – i.e. more firmly allied to the USA than any of our European allies. That said, US economic dominance means that most other countries will probably comply too.

It will be interesting to see if French or German executives are extradited to the US for breaking US financial regulations. As yet, I don’t know of any such cases but as the regulations have only just come into force, it may be simply a matter of time.

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By: The Two Wolves Weblog » Blog Archive » Free The NatWest Three http://sharpener.johnband.org/2006/07/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-19724 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:49:38 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/2006/07/11/british-business-under-american-rules/#comment-19724 […] I was going to write a lengthy rant about The NatWest Three being extradited to the US to face trial for their part in the Enron fiasco however its been dealt with most admirably by Jackart over at A Very British Dude and covered some more by Steve at The Sharpener, so you may as well imbibe their ire instead of mine. […]

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