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Comments on: 24 Hour Chaos? http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/11/24-hour-chaos/ Trying to make a point Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Neil Harding http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/11/24-hour-chaos/#comment-6097 Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:14:17 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=206#comment-6097 Eddie well said, new Labour are right, the Daily Mail, Tories and Lib Dems (liberal?) have made themselves look a laughing stock. These parties are only liberal when it suits rich people.

Ban advertising and increase tax on alcohol if you want to reduce alcohol consumption.

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By: Phil E http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/11/24-hour-chaos/#comment-3989 Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:45:51 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=206#comment-3989 Of course, there is no way that the State can intervene here

It could have a go.

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By: Eddie http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/11/24-hour-chaos/#comment-3988 Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:59:54 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=206#comment-3988 On the point about the price of drinks, I was talking about the outrageously cheap promotions that you can often find in Studentland, e.g. £8 entry and all drinks are free, £1 for alcopops, etc. Those really are irresponsible.

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By: Armin http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/11/24-hour-chaos/#comment-3980 Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:27:28 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=206#comment-3980 Can’t remember who it was, but on Radio 4 they interviewed someone yesterday who said it would take 6-8 months to understand the impact of the law changes.

I very much suspect in 6-8 months nobody will talk about this any more apart from a few politicians trying to score points using some specific event (last night there was a fight at my local pub at 2:00am, so the whole of the UK must have descended into anarchy…).

Anyone remember the floods of immigrants we would see coming to the UK when the new countries joined the EU?

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By: Quixotematic http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/11/24-hour-chaos/#comment-3979 Sat, 26 Nov 2005 00:06:20 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=206#comment-3979 I disagree that drinking should be curbed by higher prices. I rarely drink in pubs these days as I cannot afford it and I have (for the most part) always been a sensible drinker.

When I was first learning how to drink, most alcoholic beverages did not appeal to the immature palate. Beer was bitter, wine was sour and whisky hurt on the way down. You had to take it slow and learn how to drink. At the same time, you learned your limits. Also, these ‘interesting’ alcohols were self limiting. You usually started to get uncomfortable before you got paralytic.

This did not suit the modern drinks industry. They have carefully formulated drinks that you don’t need to grow into. Not just alcopops, but insipid, sweet, hopless beers that are easy to swig. There is no rough to go with the smooth. It is simply possible to drink them too fast without noticing.

Of course, there is no way that the State can intervene here (though a Minister for Decent Beer would not be a bad thing).

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By: Backword Dave http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/11/24-hour-chaos/#comment-3976 Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:19:50 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=206#comment-3976 I’m from Scotland, and I’ve drunk in bars in Ayr from 7 am and in others (in my native Edinburgh) until 4 am. But this law was made by New Labour, and for the benefit of someone, in all probability the supermarkets. But in the name of freedom? choice? trust in the people? They don’t believe in any of that stuff. We Scots can drink all of the day and all of the night, and at the end exchange Glasgow kisses. If New Labour liberalised it, they want a way to tax it.

Me, I want to give Gordon a warm Scottish greeting. Maybe two or three.

As for the “you cannot drink non-stop”, my memory may be playing me false here, but I’m sure Jack Kerouac tried that one: he drank two days straight, and woke covered in shit curled round a toilet. (I think it’s in “On the Road.”) But it’s do-able. Jimmy Greaves, George Best and others played top level football after a breakfast of vodka. The human body adapts.

There was a brewer in the Torygraph yesterday, who said that the same effect could have been achieved by deregulation. And I agree. The old licencing hours were the interfering government from WWI. We didn’t need them. They weren’t the government’s business. If they had beaten an honest retreat — “We won’t bother your pleasures any more” — I’d be all for this. But this is the government which think a quiet fag is a crime.

I rant about this all the time. The Nazis banned fox hunting. And smoking. And then they gassed the jews.

Contra Hegel, some us learned from history. Blair has never done anything for the common good. He’s always been prostrate before power, whether he’s called it God or the USA. The World According to Leo Blair.

If it were up to me, we’d legalise everything, prostitution (because what else is marriage — and that’s Mary Shelley), hard drugs, guns, 24 hour drinking. I’m as keen on this gesture as a gladiator is on an Emperor’s thumb’s up. We all have to go through it again.

What was it the Clash sang? ” They wore the black flag; they sang the red one”? Let’s rise like lions from the slumber. “What do we have to lose?” “Our chains” In unvanquishable number. Freedom. Not because they let us. But because they can’t stop us.

Let’s rise and mash Blair’s knees with crowbars. Rape his arse with smashed bottles. He was all for liberation, and that’s how liberated countries ask questions, so these aren’t obsence actions: these are necessary. After all, terrorist suspects may have ordered bombings. Of course, Blair never ordered anyone killed. And I wouldn’t ask for his death, for I, like Vladimir Putin (or indeed, Blair’s fellow god-botherer, Torquemada), believe in decency. I’m not advocating violence. I’m just saying “do unto them as they do unto others” and that happens to include electrocution and rape with bottles. There may be a moral there somewhere.

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By: Not Little England http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/11/24-hour-chaos/#comment-3973 Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:01:51 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=206#comment-3973 David Davis: Enemy of choice

The automatic assumption that you only want to buy alcohol in a supermarket late at night because you want it immediately is both blinkered and wrong..It’s not often I get to say this, it’s hard to type it up, my keyboard is rebelling. But, on this o…

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