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By: The Sharpener » On squabbling liberals

The Sharpener » On squabbling liberals — Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:19:42 +0000

[…] more than twice. It’s starting to look careless. First time around, in the comments here and elsewhere, on the Dilpazier Aslam affair, originally raised by the much-imitated Scott Burgess. Secon […]

By: Ben P

Ben P — Sat, 06 Aug 2005 04:14:54 +0000

On why should the Guardian publish Ramadan: his views represent a significant attempt to reconcile Islam as it understood by a great majority of its practitioners with liberalism. He is non-violent, if a social reactionary, and is genuinely interested in dialogue, not bullets. The bottom line is that ideas like his are the future in the Muslim world. These are the kinds of voices that have power and the wind at their backs in Iraq, in Egypt, in Syria, in Palestine, etc.. They are willing and indeed look forward to participating in an open political debate in their society. You can’t simply expect another society or religious tradition to adopt views you think they should adopt. Indeed, I think this kind of thinking is counterproductive and constitutive of violent Sunni Jihadism in the first place.

The Guardian publishes all kinds of columnists. I’ve seen them publish Wolfowitz, Rumsfelf, Richard Perle, for example. And Liam Fox. Does this mean the Guardian endorses any of these views? Clearly not. But I think it is responsible and fair minded to do so.

But frankly, I don’t see Tariq Ramadan’s social conservatism as being that different from that of socially reactionary Christian conservatives, including large segments of the United States’s population. Or for that matter, the current Pope.

By: Tim Worstall

Tim Worstall — Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:19:59 +0000

Britblog Roundup # 24.

Welcome one and all to the 24 th Britblog Roundup. Yes, your home for a peek at the glories of British and Irish blogging over the past week and, as you may have heard, soon to become a book for

By: Martin Stabe

Martin Stabe — Sat, 30 Jul 2005 08:17:24 +0000

Second Sassygate scalp?

Today, the New Orleans Times-Picayune profiles Scott Burgess, the American ex-pat blogger who yesterday took credit for a second scalp at the Guardian in the Dilpazier Aslam story. Burgess claims to have two sources that say Albert Scardino, the Guardi…

By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:19:14 +0000

Wow. The Sharpener has turned into Harry’s Place. Take it outside please, fellas. We’ll have none of that in here.

By: dsquared

dsquared — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:15:32 +0000

see that’s the problem with you guys on the decent left; you’ve got a really leaden touch with comedy.

By: David T

David T — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:51:01 +0000

Oh no, I’m far too principled to give him a dispensation.

In fact, the damage has been done. I’m subject to so much opprobrium don’t think I’m able to type another w…o..r….

By: Paddy Carter

Paddy Carter — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:36:52 +0000

OK I think I can see how to clear this up.

David T, please give dsquared dispensation to start a campaign to have you sacked from Harry’s Place. You are doing something very wrong. Would even John Stuart object to such a shocking breach of liberal principles, if the target has given permission?

dsquared – go on – experience the thrill of being a bad guy for once! Just be sure to confine your reasons why David T should be sacked to the form of what he is done, and mention nothing about its content. I’m sure the blogosphere will recognise the vitally important issues at stake.

We might even get a witch hunt, if we’re lucky.

By: David T

David T — Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:34:07 +0000

Well boohoo