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Comments on: Farewell to the Swingometer? http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/ Trying to make a point Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-1359 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 11:41:03 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-1359 Hi! Nice site you got there!

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By: Anonymous http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-1314 Fri, 08 Jul 2005 04:30:39 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-1314 I love everything about this site!!

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By: Nick http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-139 Tue, 10 May 2005 09:41:08 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-139 Monjo – both the SNP and Plaid Cymru saw their shares of the vote drop, but the SNP managed to target effectively (and take advantage of the Labour vote dropping even more) to gain two seats, whereas Plaid lost one in Wales to the Liberal Democrats.

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By: Alex http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-136 Tue, 10 May 2005 09:12:43 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-136 I quite like the idea of a three-way swingometer – it can’t be that difficult to animate it with two axes of movement.

It wouldn’t even be that hard to engineer a physical one, and that would have the advantage of chasing Peter Snow around the studio in a twisted homage to Edgar Allan Poe.

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By: Monjo http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-111 Mon, 09 May 2005 15:46:52 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-111 Any clue as to the movements towards ‘nationalist’ parties? In Northern Ireland it seemed the two more extreme parties picked up votes. It also seemed to me that in Scotland the SNP grew. Did Plaid Cymru also grow in Wales?

If politics should become more localised then this may mean continued growth for SNP & Plaid Cymru – or a marginalisation for Labour, Liberal Democrats and Conservatives in Scotland & Wales. This could help the Conservatives.

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By: Peter http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-101 Mon, 09 May 2005 14:04:00 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-101 Quite, fist. In England, for example, we give them more votes than any other party.

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By: fist http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-100 Mon, 09 May 2005 13:29:42 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-100 But we don’t let totally out of date things die in this country. The Conservative Party, for instance.

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By: Edis Bevan http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-99 Mon, 09 May 2005 12:47:51 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-99 The contrast between Rochdale and Oldham East is rooted in local factors I think. Rochdale was Liberal, then Libdem, from 1972 through to 1997 so there is a familiarity with the concept of a non-Labour MP (Cyril Smith and then Liz Lynn).

I believe Liz Lynn lost in 1997 partly because of a Labour-inspired word-of-mouth campaign amongst Moslem voters. Liz was an outstanding, indeed the leading, Parliamentary campaigner against the Child Support Agency mess. This was reframed by Labour as being ‘anti-family’ and several leading Moslem comunity leaders in Rochdale spoke out aginst her on these erroneous grounds. Under current conditions we could this year have seen a larger than usual recovery of LibDem support in the Moslem community in Rochdale.

Edis

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By: Peter http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-92 Sun, 08 May 2005 21:54:09 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-92 Well said, Anthony.

Isn’t all this stuff about uniform national swing not existing a bit of shadowboxing, anyway? Everyone knows different seats will differ in their swings, and everyone has always known that. The value of thinking in terms of uniform national swing is that when you do get an odd result, you can actually understand how odd it is by comparing to the average for everywhere else, just as Anthony did above.

Those who invest in stock market funds will know about the simple principle that any gains by someone will have to be offset by losses from someone else – so that the average fund can do no better than the average. But only by thinking in terms of the average and bearing that average in mind can one understand how remarkable (or remarkably bad) x fund or y candidate’s performance is.

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By: Phil Hunt http://sharpener.johnband.org/2005/05/farewell-to-the-swingometer/#comment-91 Sun, 08 May 2005 21:39:18 +0000 http://www.thesharpener.net/?p=23#comment-91 Thanks for that, Anthony

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